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Bits from Debian

Bits from the DPL

On Mon 12 May 2025 with tags dpl ftpmaster funding
Written by Andreas Tille

Translations: pt-BR

Dear Debian community,

This is bits from the DPL for April.

End of 10

I am sure I was speaking in the interest of the whole project when joining the "End of 10" campaign. Here is what I wrote to the initiators:

Hi Joseph and all drivers of the "End of 10" campaign, On behalf of the entire Debian project, I would like to say that we proudly join your great campaign. We stand with you in promoting Free Software, defending users' freedoms, and protecting our planet by avoiding unnecessary hardware waste. Thank you for leading this important initiative.

Andreas Tille Debian Project Leader

I have some goals I would like to share with you for my second term.

Ftpmaster delegation

This splits up into tasks that can be done before and after Trixie release.

Before Trixie:

⁣1. Reducing Barriers to DFSG Compliance Checks

Back in 2002, Debian established a way to distribute cryptographic software in the main archive, whereas such software had previously been restricted to the non-US archive. One result of this arrangement which influences our workflow is that all packages uploaded to the NEW queue must remain on the server that hosts it. This requirement means that members of the ftpmaster team must log in to that specific machine, where they are limited to a restricted set of tools for reviewing uploaded code.

This setup may act as a barrier to participation--particularly for contributors who might otherwise assist with reviewing packages for DFSG compliance. I believe it is time to reassess this limitation and work toward removing such hurdles.

In October last year, we had some initial contact with SPI's legal counsel, who noted that US regulations around cryptography have been relaxed somewhat in recent years (as of 2021). This suggests it may now be possible to revisit and potentially revise the conditions under which we manage cryptographic software in the NEW queue.

I plan to investigate this further. If you have expertise in software or export control law and are interested in helping with this topic, please get in touch with me.

The ultimate goal is to make it easier for more people to contribute to ensuring that code in the NEW queue complies with the DFSG.

⁣2. Discussing Alternatives

My chances to reach out to other distributions remained limited. However, regarding the processing of new software, I learned that OpenSUSE uses a Git-based workflow that requires five "LGTM" approvals from a group of trusted developers. As far as I know, Fedora follows a similar approach.

Inspired by this, a recent community initiative--the Gateway to NEW project--enables peer review of new packages for DFSG compliance before they enter the NEW queue. This effort allows anyone to contribute by reviewing packages and flagging potential issues in advance via Git. I particularly appreciate that the DFSG review is coupled with CI, allowing for both license and technical evaluation.

While this process currently results in some duplication of work--since final reviews are still performed by the ftpmaster team--it offers a valuable opportunity to catch issues early and improve the overall quality of uploads. If the community sees long-term value in this approach, it could serve as a basis for evolving our workflows. Integrating it more closely into DAK could streamline the process, and we've recently seen that merge requests reflecting community suggestions can be accepted promptly.

For now, I would like to gather opinions about how such initiatives could best complement the current NEW processing, and whether greater consensus on trusted peer review could help reduce the burden on the team doing DFSG compliance checks. Submitting packages for review and automated testing before uploading can improve quality and encourage broader participation in safeguarding Debian's Free Software principles.

My explicit thanks go out to the Gateway to NEW team for their valuable and forward-looking contribution to Debian.

⁣3. Documenting Critical Workflows

Past ftpmaster trainees have told me that understanding the full set of ftpmaster workflows can be quite difficult. While there is some useful documentation − thanks in particular to Sean Whitton for his work on documenting NEW processing rules – many other important tasks carried out by the ftpmaster team remain undocumented or only partially so.

Comprehensive and accessible documentation would greatly benefit current and future team members, especially those onboarding or assisting in specific workflows. It would also help ensure continuity and transparency in how critical parts of the archive are managed.

If such documentation already exists and I have simply overlooked it, I would be happy to be corrected. Otherwise, I believe this is an area where we need to improve significantly. Volunteers with a talent for writing technical documentation are warmly invited to contact me--I'd be happy to help establish connections with ftpmaster team members who are willing to share their knowledge so that it can be written down and preserved.

Once Trixie is released (hopefully before DebConf):

⁣4. Split of the Ftpmaster Team into DFSG and Archive Teams

As discussed during the "Meet the ftpteam" BoF at DebConf24, I would like to propose a structural refinement of the current Ftpmaster team by introducing two different delegated teams:

  1. DFSG Team
  2. Archive Team (responsible for DAK maintenance and process tooling, including releases)

(Alternative name suggestions are, of course, welcome.) The primary task of the DFSG team would be the processing of the NEW queue and ensuring that packages comply with the DFSG. The Archive team would focus on maintaining DAK and handling the technical aspects of archive management.

I am aware that, in the recent past, the ftpmaster team has decided not to actively seek new members. While I respect the autonomy of each team, the resulting lack of a recruitment pipeline has led to some friction and concern within the wider community, including myself. As Debian Project Leader, it is my responsibility to ensure the long-term sustainability and resilience of our project, which includes fostering an environment where new contributors can join and existing teams remain effective and well-supported. Therefore, even if the current team does not prioritize recruitment, I will actively seek and encourage new contributors for both teams, with the aim of supporting openness and collaboration.

This proposal is not intended as criticism of the current team's dedication or achievements--on the contrary, I am grateful for the hard work and commitment shown, often under challenging circumstances. My intention is to help address the structural issues that have made onboarding and specialization difficult and to ensure that both teams are well-supported for the future.

I also believe that both teams should regularly inform the Debian community about the policies and procedures they apply. I welcome any suggestions for a more detailed description of the tasks involved, as well as feedback on how best to implement this change in a way that supports collaboration and transparency.

My intention with this proposal is to foster a more open and effective working environment, and I am committed to working with all involved to ensure that any changes are made collaboratively and with respect for the important work already being done.

I'm aware that the ideas outlined above touch on core parts of how Debian operates and involve responsibilities across multiple teams. These are not small changes, and implementing them will require thoughtful discussion and collaboration.

To move this forward, I've registered a dedicated BoF for DebConf. To make the most of that opportunity, I'm looking for volunteers who feel committed to improving our workflows and processes. With your help, we can prepare concrete and sensible proposals in advance--so the limited time of the BoF can be used effectively for decision-making and consensus-building.

In short: I need your help to bring these changes to life. From my experience in my last term, I know that when it truly matters, the Debian community comes together--and I trust that spirit will guide us again.

Please also note: we had a "Call for volunteers" five years ago, and much of what was written there still holds true today. I've been told that the response back then was overwhelming--but that training such a large number of volunteers didn't scale well. This time, I hope we can find a more sustainable approach: training a few dedicated people first, and then enabling them to pass on their knowledge. This will also be a topic at the DebCamp sprint.

Dealing with Dormant Packages

Debian was founded on the principle that each piece of software should be maintained by someone with expertise in it--typically a single, responsible maintainer. This model formed the historical foundation of Debian's packaging system and helped establish high standards of quality and accountability. However, as the project has grown and the number of packages has expanded, this model no longer scales well in all areas. Team maintenance has since emerged as a practical complement, allowing multiple contributors to share responsibility and reduce bottlenecks--depending on each team's internal policy.

While working on the Bug of the Day initiative, I observed a significant number of packages that have not been updated in a long time. In the case of team-maintained packages, addressing this is often straightforward: team uploads can be made, or the team can be asked whether the package should be removed. We've also identified many packages that would fit well under the umbrella of active teams, such as language teams like Debian Perl and Debian Python, or blends like Debian Games and Debian Multimedia. Often, no one has taken action--not because of disagreement, but simply due to inattention or a lack of initiative.

In addition, we've found several packages that probably should be removed entirely. In those cases, we've filed bugs with pre-removal warnings, which can later be escalated to removal requests.

When a package is still formally maintained by an individual, but shows signs of neglect (e.g., no uploads for years, unfixed RC bugs, failing autopkgtests), we currently have three main tools:

  1. The MIA process, which handles inactive or unreachable maintainers.
  2. Package Salvaging, which allows contributors to take over maintenance if conditions are met.
  3. Non-Maintainer Uploads (NMUs), which are limited to specific, well-defined fixes (which do not include things like migration to Salsa).

These mechanisms are important and valuable, but they don't always allow us to react swiftly or comprehensively enough. Our tools for identifying packages that are effectively unmaintained are relatively weak, and the thresholds for taking action are often high.

The Package Salvage team is currently trialing a process we've provisionally called "Intend to NMU" (ITN). The name is admittedly questionable--some have suggested alternatives like "Intent to Orphan"--and discussion about this is ongoing on debian-devel. The mechanism is intended for situations where packages appear inactive but aren't yet formally orphaned, introducing a clear 21-day notice period before NMUs, similar in spirit to the existing ITS process. The discussion has sparked suggestions for expanding NMU rules.

While it is crucial not to undermine the autonomy of maintainers who remain actively involved, we also must not allow a strict interpretation of this autonomy to block needed improvements to obviously neglected packages.

To be clear: I do not propose to change the rights of maintainers who are clearly active and invested in their packages. That model has served us well. However, we must also be honest that, in some cases, maintainers stop contributing--quietly and without transition plans. In those situations, we need more agile and scalable procedures to uphold Debian's high standards.

To that end, I've registered a BoF session for DebConf25 to discuss potential improvements in how we handle dormant packages. These discussions will be prepared during a sprint at DebCamp, where I hope to work with others on concrete ideas.

Among the topics I want to revisit is my proposal from last November on debian-devel, titled "Barriers between packages and other people". While the thread prompted substantial discussion, it understandably didn't lead to consensus. I intend to ensure the various viewpoints are fairly summarised--ideally by someone with a more neutral stance than myself--and, if possible, work toward a formal proposal during the DebCamp sprint to present at the DebConf BoF.

My hope is that we can agree on mechanisms that allow us to act more effectively in situations where formerly very active volunteers have, for whatever reason, moved on. That way, we can protect both Debian's quality and its collaborative spirit.

Building Sustainable Funding for Debian

Debian incurs ongoing expenses to support its infrastructure--particularly hardware maintenance and upgrades--as well as to fund in-person meetings like sprints and mini-DebConfs. These investments are essential to our continued success: they enable productive collaboration and ensure the robustness of the operating system we provide to users and derivative distributions around the world.

While DebConf benefits from generous sponsorship, and we regularly receive donated hardware, there is still considerable room to grow our financial base--especially to support less visible but equally critical activities. One key goal is to establish a more constant and predictable stream of income, helping Debian plan ahead and respond more flexibly to emerging needs.

This presents an excellent opportunity for contributors who may not be involved in packaging or technical development. Many of us in Debian are engineers first--and fundraising is not something we've been trained to do. But just like technical work, building sustainable funding requires expertise and long-term engagement.

If you're someone who's passionate about Free Software and has experience with fundraising, donor outreach, sponsorship acquisition, or nonprofit development strategy, we would deeply value your help. Supporting Debian doesn't have to mean writing code. Helping us build a steady and reliable financial foundation is just as important--and could make a lasting impact.

Kind regards Andreas.

PS: In April I also planted my 5000th tree and while this is off-topic here I'm proud to share this information with my fellow Debian friends.


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